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206 | The Astrology of Politics, Power, and Collective Change with Lesley Brock

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In this episode of Wild & Waking, I’m joined by Lesley Brock, policy analyst, writer, astrologer, and founder of Smartt Takes and Smartt Strategies, for a conversation that brings together astrology, public policy, politics, power, grief, systems change, and collective awakening. With master’s degrees in Public Health from Harvard and Public Policy from the Fletcher School at Tufts University, Lesley brings a rare interdisciplinary lens to the question so many of us are asking right now: what the hell is happening in the world, and is there a deeper pattern beneath the chaos?


Together, we explore astrology not as prediction or escapism, but as a powerful tool for pattern recognition, decision-making, self-awareness, and understanding the collective cycles we are living through. Lesley shares how her background in government affairs, public health, human rights, and policy analysis eventually led her to astrology as a framework for understanding the human psyche, institutional breakdown, political behavior, and the personal stories that shape public decision-making. Her perspective is deeply grounded, intellectually rigorous, and refreshingly expansive.


This conversation moves through the astrology of politics, the collapse of outdated systems, the U.S. Pluto return, Pluto in Aquarius, Saturn in Aries, individual rights, collective responsibility, civic engagement, and the growing tension between old power structures and a new way of being. Lesley offers insight into why so many institutions feel unstable, why trust in government and leadership has fractured, and how astrology can help us make sense of this moment without bypassing the very real social, political, environmental, and cultural reckonings we are facing.


We also talk about grief as a catalyst for transformation, the collective impact of COVID, the future of political leadership, the role of social media in shaping trust and identity, climate change, water scarcity, land stewardship, and what it means to become spiritually awake while staying civically responsible. Lesley brings wisdom, nuance, and mastery to a conversation that refuses to separate the personal from the political or the mystical from the practical.


If you have been feeling the intensity of this moment… the crumbling, the awakening, the uncertainty, the anger, the grief, the hope… this episode will give you language, context, and a wider lens for understanding what we may be living through. This is a conversation about astrology, politics, power, collective change, personal agency, and the invitation to become conscious participants in the rebuilding of what comes next.


Meet Lesley:

Lesley is a political strategist, policy analyst, writer, and an astrologer, and the founder of Smartt Strategies, a decision-making practice that integrates policy analysis, psychology, and astrological insight.


She holds two master’s degrees from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University, and is a TEDx speaker, with work focused on how people and institutions make decisions under conditions of uncertainty.


Across her writing, teaching, and consulting, Lesley specializes in translating dense or abstract systems — political, economic, or psychological — into frameworks people can actually use. Through Smartt Strategies, she works with political candidates, influencers, nonprofits and organizations on rigorous policy analysis and applied astrological insight for strategic decision-making and long-range planning.


In this episode, The Astrology of Politics, Power, and Collective Change with Lesley Brock, we cover:

  • Lesley’s path from public policy, public health, and government affairs into astrology

  • How grief, loss, and her mother’s sudden passing reshaped Lesley’s work and worldview

  • The connection between public health, politics, and the social determinants of well-being

  • Astrology as a tool for strategy, decision-making, and self-awareness

  • Why astrology is not about giving your power away, but understanding your patterns more clearly

  • The overlap between policy analysis, psychology, human behavior, and astrology

  • What astrology can reveal about political leaders, institutions, and collective decision-making

  • The impact of COVID as a collective grief experience and societal turning point

  • Why so many people feel like life, identity, and institutions have been unraveling since 2020

  • Pluto in Capricorn and the breakdown of government, financial systems, and old power structures

  • Pluto in Aquarius and the shift toward collective power, people-led movements, and systemic change

  • The tension between individual rights, government control, and collective responsibility

  • Why we cannot simply “go back” to the way things were before

  • The astrology of collapse, rebuilding, and the possibility of a new civilization

  • How political trust has fractured and what it may take to rebuild it

  • The future of political leadership, personality-driven campaigns, and values-based leadership

  • The role of social media in politics, visibility, trust, and collective identity

  • Climate change, water scarcity, land stewardship, and our relationship with nature as a political and spiritual issue

  • The difference between desire and intention

  • What it means to become a spiritual warrior in this moment

  • How to stay awake, engaged, and aware without spiraling into fear or despair

  • The invitation to participate consciously in the systems, communities, and future we are helping create


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